Carter Wilson | Thriller Author
Making It Up is an unscripted conversation series about the messy reality of being a writer.

Each episode is a deep, unplanned conversation with writers at every stage of the journey. New York Times bestselling authors. Award winners. Debut novelists just getting started. No prepared questions. No talking points. Just two people following the conversation wherever it leads.

We talk about where stories really come from. Childhood influences. Fear. Luck. Loss. Discipline. Doubt. The highs, the lows, and the long stretches in between that rarely get talked about.

At the end of every episode, we put the philosophy into practice. We choose a random sentence from a random book and use it to create an impromptu short story. No prep. No outline. Just making something out of nothing.

Because that is the job.
And that is the point.

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Full Episode List:

Ep 1: Alex Marwood
Ep 2: Julie Clark
Ep 3: Joe Clifford
Ep 4: David Bell
Ep 5: Sean Eads
Ep 6: K.J. Howe
Ep 7: Lynne Constantine
Ep 8: Mark Stevens
Ep 9: Steven James
Ep 10: Julia Heaberlin
Ep 11: Graham Hurley
Ep 12: Emily Bleeker
Ep 13: Erika Englehaupt
Ep 14: Mark Sullivan
Ep 15: Sabrina Jeffries
Ep 16: Clare Whitfield
Ep 17: Xio Axelrod
Ep 18: Brad Parks
Ep 19: Barb Webb
Ep 20: Adrian Goldsworthy
Ep 21: Stuart Turton
Ep 22: S.A. Cosby
Ep 23: Daniel Handler
Ep 24: Maureen Johnson
Ep 25: Sarah Fine
Ep 26: Matthew Fitzsimmons
Ep 27: Robert Dugoni
Ep 28: Farrah Rochon
Ep 29: Alverne Ball
Ep 30: Drew Magary
Ep 31: Dr. Ian Smith
Ep 32: Yasmin Angoe
Ep 33: Gabrielle St George
Ep 34: Amanda Kabak
Ep 35: Lynne Reeves Griffin
Ep 36: Allen Eskens
Ep 37: Daniel Jude Miller
Ep 38: Alex Finlay
Ep 39: Aaron Philip Clark
Ep 40: Lara Elena Donnelly
Ep 41: J.T. Ellison
Ep 42: Erica Ferencik
Ep 43: Katie Lattari
Ep 44: Katrina Monroe
Ep 45: Ananda Lima
Ep 46: D.P. Lyle
Ep 47: Jess Montgomery
Ep 48: Elle Marr
Ep 49: Hilde Lysiak
Ep 50: Hannah Mary McKinnon
Ep 51: Ashley Winstead
Ep 52: Joey Hartstone
Ep 53: Clare Mackintosh
Ep 54: Faye Snowden
Ep 55: Pip Drysdale
Ep 56: James Byrne
Ep 57: Russell James
Ep 58: David Ellis
Ep 59: Laurie R King
Ep 60: Leanne Sparks
Ep 61: Wendy Walker
Ep 62: Sam McAlister
Ep 63: Kelly J Ford
Ep 64: Jonathan Woods
Ep 65: Samuel Octavius
Ep 66: Jeffrey Wilson
Ep 67: Barbara Nickless
Ep 68: Katie Sise
Ep 69: Carla Damron
Ep 70: Jennifer Givhan
Ep 71: Ronald Kelly
Ep 72: Nuzo Onoh
Ep 73: Mark Stevens
Ep 74: Chad Boudreaux
Ep 75: Lexie Elliott
Ep 76: David Heska Wanbli Weiden
Ep 77: Rebecca Kelley
Ep 78: Kimberly Belle
Ep 79: Tracy Clark
Ep 80: Veronica G. Henry
Ep 81: Kimberly Giarratano
Ep 82: Samantha M. Bailey
Ep 83: Hank Phillippi Ryan
Ep 84: Nancy Stohlman
Ep 85: Ciera Horton McElroy
Ep 86: Rebecca Ann Keller
Ep 87: Lauren Thoman
Ep 88: Tessa Wegert
Ep 89: Kara Thomas
Ep 90: Don Bentley
Ep 91: Christopher Flory
Ep 92: Rachael Herron
Ep 93: Alisa Valdes
Ep 94: A.G. Riddle
Ep 95: Bryn Turnbull
Ep 96: Eliza Knight
Ep 97: Aimie K. Runyan
Ep 98: M.P. Woodward
Ep 99: Del Chatterson
Ep 100: Javier Castillo
Ep 101: Lindsay Cameron
Ep 102: Chris Riley
Ep 103: Carl Vonderau
Ep 104: Michael Katz Krefeld
Ep 105: MIU Live
Ep 106: Amy Weinland Daughters
Ep 107: Heather Levy
Ep 108: Carol Dunbar
Ep 109: Hannah Nicole Maehrer
Ep 110: Edward Cahill
Ep 111: Stephen Michaud
Ep 112: Erin Hoover
Ep 113: Martin Clark
Ep 114: Elise Hart Kipness
Ep 115: Emily Smith
Ep 116: Kathleen Willett
Ep 117: Abbott Kahler
Ep 118: Hailey Piper
Ep 119: Sara DiVello
Ep 120: Boyd and Beth Morrison
Ep 121: Katherine Howe
Ep 122: Audrey Gale
Ep 123: Matt Coyle
Ep 124: L.R. Jones
Ep 125: Joe and Kasey Lansdale
Ep 126: Araminta Hall
Ep 127: Peg Tyre
Ep 128: Jeff Hoffmann
Ep 129: Diego Báez
Ep 130: Caroline Cleveland
Ep 131: Peter Blauner
Ep 132: Danny Cherry Jr.
Ep 133: Christopher Reich
Ep 134: Tim Booth
Ep 135: Louise Doughty
Ep 136: Matt Scott
Ep 137: Kimberly Giarratano
Ep 138: Aimie Runyan
Ep 139: Victoria Helen Stone
Ep 140: Dean Monti
Ep 141: Mary Adkins
Ep 142: Marc Guggenheim
Ep 143: Jeffery Deaver and Isabella Maldonado
Ep 144: Erica Wright
Ep 145: Kendra Elliot and Melinda Leigh
Ep 146: Mary Bly (Eloisa James)
Ep 147: Lori Roy
Ep 148: John DeDakis
Ep 149: Elka Ray
Ep 150: Lauren Thoman
Ep 151: J.D. Barker
Ep 152: Erin E. Adams
Ep 153: Lisa Gardner
Ep 154: Karen Dionne
Ep 155: Barbara Feigin
Ep 156: Gina DeMillo Wagner
Ep 157: Jen Ruiz
Ep 158: Libby Cudmore
Ep 159: Edward Hamlin
Ep 160: Brad Parks
Ep 161: Elise Hart Kipness
Ep 162: Rebecca McKanna
Ep 163: Georgia Jeffries
Ep 164: Alex Kenna
Ep 165: Pamela Statz
Ep 166: Emily Jon Tobias
Ep 167: Sandra Block
Ep 168: Barbara Nickless
Ep 169: Midge Raymond and John Yunkers
Ep 170: Chad Boudreaux
Ep 171: Kyle Prue
Ep 172: Charlotte Vassell
Ep 173: Allyson Ryan and Patrick Zeller
Ep 174: Meredith Lyons
Ep 175: Sydney Leigh
Ep 176: Andrew DeYoung
Ep 177: Tess Gerritsen
Ep 178: James L’Etoile
Ep 179: Douglas Brunt
Ep 180: Lisa Williamson Rosenberg
Ep 181: Lori Brand
Ep 182: Emily Carpenter
Ep 183: G.T. Karber
Ep 184: Bob Johnson
Ep 185: Cynthia Pelayo
Ep 186: Traci Abramson
Ep 187: Joshua Moehling
Ep 188: Matt Goldman
Ep 189: A.J. Finn
Ep 190: Ellen Birkett Morris
Ep 191: Bryan Gruley
Ep 192: Laura Resau
Ep 193: Kaira Rouda
Ep 194: Mailan Doquang
Ep 195: Robert Bailey
Ep 196: Lori Roy
Ep 197: Leigh Dunlap
Ep 198: Dwayne Goetzel
Ep 199: Joe Hart
Ep 200: Michelle Jabès Corpora
Ep 201: Jeffrey Konvitz
Ep 202: Lindy Ryan
Ep 203: Andrea Bartz
Ep 204: Scott Graham
Ep 205: Aime Austin
Ep 206: Harry Hunsicker
Ep 207: Elena Taylor
Ep 208: Cynthia Swanson
Ep 209: Christina Baker Kline and Anne Burt
Ep 210: Andrew Bourelle
Ep 211: Alma Katsu
Ep 212: Casey Sherman
Ep 213: Kika Dorsey
Ep 214: I.S. Berry
Ep 215: Chris Pavone
Ep 216: Courtney Psak
Ep 217: Danielle Girard
Ep 218: Jennifer Fawcett
Ep 219: Tod Goldberg
Ep 220: Matthew Sullivan
Ep 221: Wendy Walker
Ep 222: Gregg Hurwitz
Ep 223: Joseph Finder
Ep 224: Clémence Michallon
Ep 225: Jen J. Danna
Ep 226: Ryan Steck and Simon Gervais
Ep 227: Amy Meyerson
Ep 228: Michael Kardos
Ep 229: Lisa Unger
Ep 230: Marlee Bush
Ep 231: Daniel Miller
Ep 232: Jeffrey James Higgins
Ep 233: Emily Carpenter
Ep 234: Kate White
Ep 235: Lee Goldberg
Ep 236: Tracy Clark
Ep 237: Katrina Denza
Ep 238: Lauren Nossett
Ep 239: Angie Kim
Ep 240: Ellery Adams
Ep 241: Rachael Ramas
Ep 242: Corinne Sullivan

Latest Episodes

Episode 242 | July 15, 2026

“A lot of it is learning to trust your reader too. I feel like I’m tempted to do a lot of handholding when I write… and you have to go through with a red pen after and say, ‘Okay, what is really not needed? What can the reader figure out on their own?’ … You’re not writing books for idiots, so don’t act like they’re idiots.” 

Corinne Sullivan is the senior news editor at Cosmopolitan, where she covers celebrity and entertainment news. She graduated from Boston College in 2014 with a degree in English and creative writing. She went on to receive her MFA in fiction from Sarah Lawrence College. Her stories have appeared in literary magazines such as Night Train, Knee-Jerk, and Pithead Chapel, among other publications, and her 2018 debut novel, Indecent, was included on several “best of” lists.

Among other things, Corinne and Carter discuss trying to become an editorial assistant after getting her MFA, lessons on the writing industry that Corinne has learned from being a senior news editor at Cosmopolitan, and how descriptive writing can slow a story down. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from BJ Magnani’s We’ll Always Have Poison.

Episode 241 | July 5, 2026

“The mom guilt—you hit the nail on the head. I’m like, ‘Sorry guys, mommy’s writing a murder chapter right now, somebody’s getting murdered.’ But at the end of the day, writing is a passion… and it makes me a better mom.”

Rachael Ramas is a multi-faceted storytelling force whose creative pursuits span novels, screenwriting, and film production. As both a published author and active member of prestigious writing organizations, Ramas continues pushing boundaries in thriller literature while advocating for authentic representation. Her debut thriller, Objects in Lakes, was released in May 2026, and her second novel, Meanwhile, in Florida, is set to be released in April 2027.

Among other things, Rachael and Carter discuss writing from different points of view, how Rachael is preparing for her first book tour, and the challenge of boasting about yourself and your book as a modest person. At the end of their conversation, they make up an intense story using a line from Matthew Sullivan’s Midnight in Soap Lake

Episode 240 | July 2, 2026

“I don’t like when violence is trivialized in any genre… someone’s dead, like the little jokes or the puns or the whatever, it doesn’t work for me… I can’t buy into that atmosphere. There has to be… it’s not even a ripple effect. It’s a freaking tsunami when there’s a violent death. So let the storm come, you know, I want to see it. I want to feel it.” 

Ellery Adams is the USA Today and New York Times bestselling author of over 40 novels, including the Books by the Bay mysteries, the Charmed Pie Shoppe mysteries, and the Book Retreat mysteries. She grew up on a beach near the Long Island Sound. Adams has held many jobs, including caterer, retail clerk, car salesperson, teacher, tutor, and tech writer, all the while penning poems, children’s books, and novels.

Among other things, Ellery and Carter discuss the fluidity of the horror genre, storytelling as a child, and setting a story in the 1980s. At the end of their conversation, they make up a descriptive story using a line from R.H. Herron’s Stolen Things.

Episode 239 | June 24, 2026

“I remember rereading it and being like, ‘This is what I have been looking for… through all of these jobs and career to careers, that thing that brings me happiness on a day-to-day level.’ And also that macro level satisfaction of like, ‘I’m kind of proud of what I created,’ you know? It’s those two levels that I think are really, really hard to find. And I think it’s worth trying to go from thing to thing, trying to find that for yourself, whatever that may be.” 

Angie Kim moved as a preteen from Seoul, South Korea, to the suburbs of Baltimore. She studied philosophy at Stanford University and attended Harvard Law School, where she was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. Her debut novel, Miracle Creek, won the Edgar Award and the ITW Thriller Award, and was named one of the 100 best mysteries and thrillers of all time by Time, and one of the best books of the year by Time, The Washington Post, Kirkus Reviews, and the Today show. Happiness Falls, her second novel, was an instant New York Times bestseller and a book club pick for Good Morning America, Barnes & Noble, Belletrist, and Book of the Month Club.

Among other things, Angie and Carter discuss how Angie immigrated from Korea in middle school, using writing as a form of therapy, and how Angie fictionalized her personal life and started her writing career. At the end of their conversation, they make up an intriguing story using a line from Joan Didion’s The Year of Magical Thinking

Episode 238 | June 15, 2026

“Since so many thrillers are based around some kind of crime—which is a break in our social order—it is the perfect vehicle to explore the human condition… Thrillers and crime fiction really allow for an under the microscope, us looking at what happens when the social order breaks down.” 

Lauren Nossett is a professor turned novelist and the award-winning author of the thrillers The Resemblance and The Professor. Her books have been Amazon Editors picks and featured in The New York Times, Buzzfeed,E! News, and Paste Magazine. Described as “elegant and thoughtful” by The New York Times and “impossible to put down” by Paste Magazine, The Resemblance won the ITW Thriller Award for Best First Novel and was chosen as a Book All Georgians Should Read. Her next novel, Indie Darling, will release July 2026.

Among other things, Lauren and Carter discuss their experiences at writing conferences like ThrillerFest, maintaining a fast pace in a thriller, and how she completely rewrote her recent novel. At the end of their conversation, they make up a dark story using a line from Elise Hart Kipness’s Dangerous Play.

Episode 237 | June 8, 2026

“Problem solving is done in the woods a lot of times for me… or doing dishes, you’ll have an aha moment, right? It’s the magic—you can’t beat it into fruition… magically, it just shows itself. It’s quite fun.”

Katrina Denza’s stories have appeared in Nelle, Slippery Elm, and Jabberwock Review, among other places. Her work has received a scholarship from the Bread Loaf Writers’ Conference and a fellowship from the Virginia Center for the Creative Arts. Her debut story collection, BURNER AND OTHER STORIES, was published in November 2025. From 2015 to 2021 she served as chair of the Writers-in-Residence Program for the Weymouth Center for the Arts & Humanities in North Carolina.

Among other things, Katrina and Carter discuss New England, learning to fall in love with the process, and how inspiration can strike at random moments. At the end of their conversation, they make up a gripping story using a line from The Stories of F. Scott Fitzgerald.

Episode 236 | June 1, 2026

“Tenacity is essential. Bullheadedness is essential. You have to be really, really stubborn about it… You have to stick in there until your shot comes up. That’s all it is.” 

Tracy Clark is the author of the award-winning Cass Raines Chicago Mystery series and the Detective Harriet Foster series, featuring Harriet Foster. A multi-nominated Anthony, Lefty, Macavity, Edgar and Shamus Award finalist, Tracy is also the 2020 and 2022 winner of the G.P. Putnam’s Sons Sue Grafton Memorial Award, as well as the 2022 Sara Paretsky Award, and is a proud member of Crime Writers of Color, Mystery Writers of America and Sisters in Crime, and currently serves on the Bouchercon national board and the board of the Midwest Mystery Conference.

Among other things, Tracy and Carter discuss learning that writing is a business, killing off characters in a timely manner, and managing rejection. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from Carlene O’Connor’s You Have Gone Too Far

Episode 235 | May 26, 2026

“I learned a very important lesson from Janet Ivanovich. She said I want readers to forget they’re reading. I want them to be so lost in what they’re doing… they forget there’s a page. You want the writing to disappear… I want them to get sucked into just being lost in the book.” 

Lee Goldberg is a two-time Edgar Award and two-time Shamus Award nominee and the #1 New York Times bestselling author of more than thirty novels, including the Eve Ronin series, the Sharpe & Walker series, the Ian Ludlow trilogy, fifteen Monk mysteries, and five internationally bestselling Fox & O’Hare books co-written with Janet Evanovich. He has also written and/or produced many TV shows, including Diagnosis Murder, SeaQuest, and Monk, and is the co-creator of the hit Hallmark movie series Mystery 101

Among other things, Lee and Carter discuss growing up with parents working in media, putting yourself in a position where opportunities come to you, and writing a screenplay versus a novel. At the end of their conversation, they make up a cinematic story using a line from Tod Goldberg’s Only Way Out.

Episode 234 | May 17, 2026

“I loved it… Cosmo was a fabulous job in every sense of the word. It was like being on a television show everyday… but I could start to see, wow, this is all collapsing… I’d already written eight of my thrillers and mysteries while I was at Cosmo. I thought I’m going to get out while I still have the chance.” 

Kate White is the New York Times and USA Today bestselling author of nineteen novels of suspense: 11 standalone psychological thrillers and eight Bailey Weggins mysteries. A former Glamour magazine Top Ten College Women Contest winner and cover girl, Kate had a long career in the media world, which included running five national magazines. For 14 years she was the editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan, which under her became the most successful magazine in single copy sales in the U.S. Kate’s first mystery, If Looks Could Kill, was a Kelly Ripa Book Club pick, a #1 bestseller on Amazon, and an instant New York Times bestseller. 

Among other things, Kate and Carter discuss why Kate left the magazine industry, being aware of market trends, and her research on grief for her novel. At the end of their conversation, they make up a dark story using a line from Emily Littlejohn’s Lost Lake.

Episode 233 | May 11, 2026

“I’ve really been able to lean into that Southern Gothic with a touch of horror… It’s that concept of… is it a ghost or is it the guy? There is always that element in my books. Is it real, is it not real, is it an unreliable narrator having psychosis or is it truly something supernatural?” 

Emily Carpenter, a former actor, producer, screenwriter, and behind-the-scenes soap opera assistant, was born and raised in Alabama. After graduating from Auburn University, she moved to New York City and now lives in Georgia with her family. She is the author of Amazon bestselling Burying the Honeysuckle Girls and The Weight of Lies.

Among other things, Emily and Carter discuss Emily’s research on witchcraft and psychics for her novel, writing vague endings, and how a unique voice can elevate a generic plot. At the end of their conversation, they make up an intriguing story using a line from BJ Magnani’s We’ll Always Have Poison.

Episode 232 | May 3, 2026

“Writing is so personal. And when you’re writing a character, things come out that I know most writers, including myself, are unaware of when they’re writing it… they’re writing about things you’re trying to work out. It’s so deeply personal if you’re writing honestly.” 

Jeffrey James Higgins is a retired supervisory special agent who writes thrillers, short stories, creative nonfiction, and essays. He has wrestled a suicide bomber, fought the Taliban in combat, and chased terrorists across five continents. He received the Attorney General’s Award for Exceptional Heroism and the DEA Award of Valor. He’s appeared on CNN Declassified, National Geographic’s Narco Wars, and ABC News. Jeffrey is a #1 Amazon bestselling author who’s won the Claymore Award, PenCraft’s Best Fiction Book of the Year, and a Readers’ Favorite Gold Medal. 

Among other things, Jeffrey and Carter discuss their style of interviewing in their podcasts, overly descriptive writing, and balancing reader expectations with experimenting with genres. At the end of their conversation, they make up a funny story using a line from Cormac McCarthy’s The Passenger.

Episode 231 | April 26, 2026

“Almost anytime somebody gives you a generalization, there’s about 17 other examples that break that rule. Some of the greatest books of all time break those rules.” 

Daniel G. Miller is the USA Today bestselling author of the Orphanage By The Lake mystery-thriller series and the Tree of Knowledge adventure series. His books have been described as “irresistible” by thriller master James Patterson and as “a thrill ride with no seatbelt but what an incredible view,” by Pulitzer Prize winner Junot Diaz. His novel, The Orphanage By The Lake, was selected as an Amazon Editor’s Pick. His newest novel, Buried in the Woods Below, will be released in September 2026. 

Among other things, Dan and Carter discuss the business of self-publishing, writing effective violence, and giving readers credit for their imagination. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from Lisa Matlin’s The Only One Who Knows

Episode 230 | April 20, 2026

“I think that when you don’t have an abundance of time, you cherish the time you have more. So that goes for my kids and for writing. I take it very seriously and I do cherish it. It doesn’t feel like a job. It doesn’t feel like work… But then the same with them, because I’m getting pulled in two different directions. I cherish the time when I can just focus on them more. I think it just helps me to be a better mom and a better writer.” 

Marlee Bush lives in Alabama with her husband and children. With degrees in Criminology and English, she’s obsessed with true crime and documentaries. Her favorite stories to tell are the kind that make you double check the locks on your door at night. When She Was Me is her debut novel, and her second novel Whispers of Dead Girls, came out last May. 

Among other things, Marlee and Carter discuss the identity shift that results from getting published, how Marlee started writing while working in a call center, and why making money from writing should not determine your status as a professional writer. At the end of their conversation, they make up a creepy story using a line from Elise Hart Kipness’s Dangerous Play.

Episode 229 | April 12, 2026

“I think people think that the first publishing contract is a windfall… But for most of us, it’s the beginning of the story. All it is, is an open door to the writing life. And if you want to succeed… you’re going to roll up your sleeves and get to work like everybody else who wants to do anything well in this life.” 

Lisa Unger is the New York Times and internationally bestselling author of twenty-three novels. Her critically acclaimed novels have been featured on “Best Book” lists from the Today Show, Entertainment Weekly, and many others. She has been nominated for, or won, numerous awards including the Strand Critics, ITW Thriller, and Goodreads Choice. In 2019, she received two Edgar Award nominations in the same year. Lisa is the current co-President of the International Thriller Writers organization. 

Among other things, Lisa and Carter discuss pushing yourself out of your comfort zone by attending writing conferences, why increasing your own visibility is critical for both debut and legacy authors, and learning to let go when writing. At the end of their conversation, they make up an interesting story using a line from Chris Pavone’s The Doorman.

Episode 228 | April 5, 2026

“What I noticed was that I started writing stories and just doing things like, ‘oh, wait, when I write, I don’t need other guys. And I don’t need a sound man. And I don’t need a stage. And I don’t need gear.’ It was so nice to be able to make something without all the crap associated with it.” 

Michael Kardos is the author of the novels Fun City Heist, Bluff, Before He Finds Her, and The Three-Day Affair. His story collection Quick Change and One Last Good Time won the Mississippi Institute of Arts & Letters Award, and his short stories have won two Pushcart Prizes. He is also the author of The Art and Craft of Fiction: A Writer’s Guide, which is taught at universities across the country, and he co-directed the creative writing program at Mississippi State University for 15 years.

Among other things, Michael and Carter discuss how Michael went from a career in music to getting his MFA, their thoughts on craft books for new writers, and feeling uneasy most of the time while you’re writing a book. At the end of their conversation, they make up a strange story using a line from Kristen Perrin’s How To Solve Your Own Murder.

Episode 227 | March 27, 2026

“What I’ve always been really focused on is trying to figure out what is it in any book—and it’s different in different genres—that makes you keep turning the page. That’s always been my goal: to get people to keep turning.”

Amy Meyerson is the acclaimed author of the internationally bestselling books The Bookshop of Yesterdays, The Imperfects, and The Love Scribe. Her books are frequently chosen for best-of lists, including lists from Good Morning America, People Magazine, Publishers Weekly, among others. Meyerson completed her graduate work in creative writing at the University of Southern California, where she now teaches in the writing department. Her new novel The Water Lies–her first work of psychological suspense–was released in January.

Among other things, Amy and Carter discuss listening to audiobooks to improve your writing, using profanity selectively, and Amy’s shift to writing thrillers/psychological suspense novels. At the end of their conversation, they make up a fascinating story using a line from Stephen Graham Jones’s Mongrels.

Episode 226 | March 23, 2026

Ryan Steck is a freelance editor, an author, and the founder and editor in chief of The Real Book Spy. Ryan has been named an “Online Influencer” by Amazon and is a regular columnist at CrimeReads. Steck has “quickly established himself as the authority on mysteries and thrillers” (Author A.J. Tata) on his way to being endorsed by numerous #1 New York Times bestselling authors.

Simon Gervais is a former Canadian federal agent specializing in protective operations and counterterrorism. He’s the New York Times and #1 Amazon bestselling author of 17 exciting thrillers. His Clayton White series is presently being adapted for TV by CBS Studios with Jerry Bruckheimer TV attached to produce. The Second Son, which was co-written with Ryan Steck, spent two consecutive months in the Kindle top 100 overall bestsellers. 

Among other things, Ryan, Simon, and Carter discuss their different views on the outlining process, how their distinct writing voices come together when co-writing, and how Simon writes in his second language. At the end of their conversation, they make up a dark story using a line from Matt Goldman’s The Murder Show.

Episode 225 | March 14, 2026

“From the time that I started publishing, my goal was to be able to do it full-time… it took 10 years to get there, but you know, slow and steady wins the race.”

Jen J. Danna hung up her lab coat after over thirty years in infectious diseases research to concentrate on writing thrillers. She is the coauthor of the Abbott and Lowell Forensic Mysteries with Ann Vanderlaan, a series of suspenseful crime fiction with a realistic scientific edge. As Sara Driscoll, she writes the FBI K-9s thriller series, starring search-and-rescue team Meg Jennings and her black lab, Hawk. She also writes the NYPD Negotiators series. The first of her new standalone thrillers, ECHOES OF MEMORY, released in 2024.

Among other things, Jen and Carter discuss how Jen writes 3 books a year, AI in the writing industry, and Jen’s decision to re-edit five of her old novels. At the end of their conversation, they make up a descriptive story using a line from John Jakes’s Love and War.

Episode 224 | March 6, 2026

“I figured out at some point along the way that I was happier trying and failing than I was not trying at all.”  

Clémence Michallon is an author and a journalist. Her debut thriller The Quiet Tenant was published in June 2023 and is an international bestseller. Her thriller Our Last Resort came out in July 2025. She was a staff writer at The Independent for five years, and is now a freelance journalist. Her work has appeared in The New York Times Book Review, Time Magazine, Cosmopolitan UK, and more. Clémence graduated from Sciences Po in Paris. She studied journalism at City University of London and received a master’s in Journalism from Columbia University. 

Among other things, Clémence and Carter discuss forcing yourself to be bored to spark creativity, the benefits of having training in journalism, and why they never write the words “The End.” At the end of their conversation, they make up a creepy story using a line from Tana French’s The Searcher.

Episode 223 | March 1, 2026

“You want to bond with the reader, you know? And you want to take the reader and basically say to the reader, I’m about to tell you a story now. You’re not gonna believe this, but bear with me, okay? And once you’ve established trust with the reader, you can go pretty far.”

Joseph Finder is the New York Times bestselling author of 17 suspense novels. His books have won numerous awards, including the Strand Critics Award for Best Novel, the International Thriller Writers Award for Best Novel and the Barry Award for Best Thriller. The Boston Globe has called him a “master of the modern thriller.”  Two of his novels have been made into major motion pictures, including High Crimes, adapted into the hit 2002 movie starring Ashley Judd and Morgan Freeman; and Paranoia, the 2013 film starring Harrison Ford, Gary Oldman, and Liam Hemsworth. 

Among other things, Joe and Carter discuss writing about what you want to know, how changes in the publishing industry have made things harder for debut authors, and getting blurbed by Stephen King. At the end of their conversation, they make up a tense story using a line from Stephen King’s Just After Sunset.

Episode 222 | February 20, 2026

“I’ve loved the actual act of writing. You know, I meet a lot of people who wanna be writers. I meet very few who wanna write. I always wanted to write.”

Gregg Hurwitz is the New York Times #1 internationally bestselling author of 27 thrillers including the Orphan X series. His novels have won numerous literary awards and have been published in 33 languages. Gregg currently serves as the Co-President of International Thriller Writers (ITW). Additionally, he’s written screenplays and television scripts for many of the major studios and networks and is an award-winning documentary producer. Gregg has also written comics for AWA, DC, and Marvel. He’s penned dozens of op eds and pieces for The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, and others. He also helped write the opening ceremony of the 2022 World Cup.

Among other things, Gregg and Carter discuss viewing writing as a compulsion, Gregg’s experiences getting published while in college, and learning who to trust when receiving critique and feedback. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from Joseph Heller’s Catch-22.

Episode 221 | February 12, 2026

Wendy Walker is the bestselling author of psychological thrillers including Don’t Look for Me, The Night Before, and All Is Not Forgotten, as well as multiple Audible Originals. Her latest book, Blade, draws from her past as a competitive figure skater and marks a personal and creative turning point in her career. Before writing full-time, Wendy practiced law and raised her three sons.

Among other things, Wendy and Carter discuss what it means to finally write the story that’s been living inside you for years, how immersive storytelling is changing the audiobook landscape, and why hiring help as an author isn’t a luxury—it’s a strategy. They also talk about vulnerability in creative marketing, the balance of truth and fiction, and how her latest work came together in a blur of sound design, stress, and storytelling. At the end of their conversation, they create a story about furries using a sentence from a Karin Slaughter novel.

Episode 220 | February 7, 2026

“If you’re not exploring, if you’re not really kind of pushing limits, then you really have to ask yourself, well, what am I doing here? Like, this isn’t accounting, you know what I mean? It’s creative writing.” 

Matthew Sullivan is the author of Midnight at the Bright Ideas Bookstore, an Indie Next Pick, B&N Discover pick, a GoodReads Choice Award finalist, and winner of the Colorado Book Award. He received his MFA from the University of Idaho and has been a resident writer at Yaddo, Centrum, and the Vermont Studio Center. His short stories have been awarded the Robert Olen Butler Fiction Prize and the Florida Review Editors’ Award for Fiction. His writing has been featured in the New York Times Modern Love column and The Daily Beast, amongst others.

Among other things, Matthew and Carter discuss alcohol and writing, writing weird and unconventional novels, and how the unpredictability of success as an author makes you a better writer. At the end of their conversation, they make up a menacing story using a line from Abbott Kahler’s Where You End.

Episode 219 | January 30, 2026

“Writer’s block is a myth. It’s your brain lying to you. Chefs don’t have chef’s block.” 

Tod Goldberg is a New York Times bestselling author of sixteen books, including the Gangsterland quartet, which have won/been a finalist for the Hammett Prize, the International Thriller of the Year and many more. His short fiction and essays appear widely and have been selected in Best American Mystery & Suspense and Best American Essays. He is a Professor of Creative Writing at the University of California, Riverside where he founded and directs the Low Residency MFA in Creative Writing & Writing for the Performing Arts.

Among other things, Tod and Carter discuss coming from a family of writers, observations from running a MFA program, and writing from a place of absurdity rather than darkness. At the end of their conversation, they make up a hilarious story using a line from Stephen King’s Everything’s Eventual.

Episode 218 | January 22, 2026

“I’ve just always been drawn to dark stuff. I’m really fascinated by why people do the things that they do—particularly bad things.” 

Jennifer Fawcett is an author, actor, and playwright. She grew up in Canada and spent many years in theatre there before moving to the US. She has an MFA from the Iowa Playwrights Workshop and was a founding member of Working Group Theatre. Her work has been produced in regional theaters across the US and UK. Her play Apples in Winter won the National New Play Network Smith Prize and the Susan Glaspell Award and is published by Original Works. She has written two novels, including Beneath the Stairs and Keep This for Me.

Among other things, Jennifer and Carter discuss making professional connections with other authors, maintaining a relationship with your editor, and advocating for yourself to your publishing team. At the end of their conversation, they make up a descriptive story using a line from Audrey Lee’s The Mechanics of Memory.

Episode 217 | January 15, 2026

“The idea that you could be at the whim of something as mercurial as a muse doesn’t work if you also have to show up for a job and a family and kids.” 

Danielle Girard is the USA Today and Amazon #1 bestselling author of sixteen novels. Her books have won the Barry Award, the Romantic Times Reviewers’ Choice Award, and more. In addition, two of her titles have been optioned for screen. Her next thriller, Pinky Swear, will be on February 24, 2026. Danielle is also the creator and host of the Killer Women podcast, where she interviews the women who write today’s best crime fiction. 

Among other things, Danielle and Carter discuss writing first-person present tense, Danielle going back to get her MFA after four published books, and the challenge with writing characters who are demographically different from you. At the end of their conversation, they make up a mysterious story using a line from Wendy Walker’s Blade.

Episode 216 | January 11, 2026

“You’re really investing in yourself. And when I actually do get a check, I’m like—wait, I got paid for this one?”

Courtney Psak is the author of two novels, and her third, The Hostess, is being released in April 2026. She graduated with a degree in Communications and Journalism with a master’s degree in Publishing. She is a member of the Crime Writers’ Association, International Thriller Writers, Sisters in Crime and a board member for the Mystery Writers of America.

Among other things, Courtney and Carter discuss Courtney’s detailed outlining and writing process, having a UK publisher, and how mother-in-laws make great unreliable narrators. At the end of their conversation, they make up a gripping story using a line from Chris Pavone’s The Doorman.

Episode 215 | January 6, 2026

“Don’t wait for chapter five to be good. Be good immediately.”

Chris Pavone is an international thriller author whose novels include THE EXPATS, winner of both the Edgar and Anthony Awards; the instant bestseller TWO NIGHTS IN LISBON; and THE DOORMAN, a New York Times Notable Book of 2025. His novels have appeared on all the major bestseller lists and have won or been shortlisted for Edgar, Anthony, Strand, Macavity, and ThrillerFest awards, among others. Chris worked in publishing for nearly two decades and ghost-wrote a couple of nonfiction books.

Among other things, Chris and Carter discuss working in publishing in New York City in the early 90s, why the first page of your manuscript is so important, and how a move to Luxembourg inspired Chris’s first novel. At the end of their conversation, they make up an emotional story using a line from Jeffrey Konvitz’s The Circus of Satan.

Episode 214 | January 5, 2026

“(The CIA) redacted my height and weight. I kid you not—they redacted the color of the sky.” 

I.S. Berry spent six years as an operations officer for the CIA, serving in wartime Baghdad and elsewhere. She has lived and worked throughout Europe and the Middle East, including two years in Bahrain during the Arab Spring. I.S. Berry is a member of the Mystery Writers of America, International Thriller Writers, International Association of Crime Writers, and the Association of Former Intelligence Officers. 

Among other things, Carter and I.S. discuss I.S. ‘s experiences with foreign affairs and her path to the CIA, writing a memoir to make sense of her experiences, and playing around with pacing and action in your novels. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from Wendy Walker’s Blade.

Episode 213 | December 31, 2025

“He’s psychotic, you know. That really messed me up… but I think it was good to do—to delve into what is the point of view of someone who’s psychotic.” 

Kika Dorsey is an author and an English lecturer at the University of Colorado, Boulder. While finishing her Ph.D. in Comparative Literature, she performed her poetry with musicians and artists. She currently writes and publishes fiction and ghostwrites fiction and nonfiction books and articles. Her poems have been published in The Denver Quarterly and The Columbia Review, among numerous others. She is the author of four poetry collections and has won the Colorado Authors’ League Award. 

Among other things, Kika and Carter discuss the reality of making money as an author, writing unreliable narrators, and why it can be so challenging to get an agent nowadays. At the end of their conversation, they make up a beautiful story using a line from Angie Kim’s Happiness Falls.

Episode 212 | December 27, 2025

“I wrote the first book to try and give my mother comfort and closure. But halfway through, I realized—I wasn’t just telling her story anymore. I was telling mine.”

Casey Sherman is a New York Times Bestselling Author of 13 books including The Finest Hours (now a major motion picture starring Casey Affleck & Chris Pine), Boston Strong (the basis for the film Patriots Day starring Mark Wahlberg), Animal & Hunting Whitey. Sherman is a contributing writer for TIME, Esquire, Washington Post, Boston Herald and Boston Magazine and has appeared as a guest an analyst on more than 100 television news programs. 

Among other things, Casey and Carter discuss Casey’s personal inspiration behind his decades-long investigation into the Boston Strangler case, his approach to investigative journalism for his non-fiction works, and his involvement in Peacock’s recent documentary on the Boston Strangler. At the end of their conversation, they make up a fascinating story using a line from Ben Macintyre’s Operation Mincemeat.

Episode 211 | December 22, 2025

“Is it a good idea that I write in both horror and spy thrillers? No. I think it’s a crap idea. But Hollywood really loves the spy stories.”

Alma Katsu is a NYT bestselling author whose books have been nominated for and won multiple awards including the Stoker, Goodreads Readers Choice, and International Thriller Writers, among others, and appeared on numerous Best Books lists. She has over 30 years’ experience as an intelligence professional at CIA and NSA, and has written two spy novels. The Hunger was named one of NPR’s 100 favorite horror stories and was on numerous Best Books of the Year lists. Her first book, The Taker, was named one of the top ten debut novels of 2011 by Booklist. 

Among other things, Alma and Carter discuss the pre-publication review process within the CIA, writing in two different genres, and having your book optioned for film/TV. At the end of their conversation, they make up a fast-paced story using a line from Carlene O’Connor’s You Have Gone Too Far.

Episode 210 | December 19, 2025

“You’re trying to beat on these doors in the publishing world… and suddenly this door you didn’t even know was there opens up and says, ‘Hey, come in.’”

Andrew Bourelle is the critically-acclaimed author of Shot Clock, 48 Hours to Kill, and Heavy Metal, as well as a coauthor with James Patterson of the Rory Yates series. Publishers Weekly described him as “a writer to watch”. He teaches creative writing at the University of New Mexico.

Among other things, Andrew and Carter discuss referencing cinema and tv when teaching writing, why you should always be working on your next project, and working with James Patterson. At the end of their conversation, they make up a suspenseful story using a line from C.J. Box’s Battle Mountain.

Episode 209 | December 15, 2025

“The whole concept of working together started when we were in a writer’s room—a Hollywood production company writer’s room—and we learned how to create cliffhangers.”  – Christina Baker Kline 

Christina Baker Kline is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of ten novels, including Orphan Train, The Exiles, Please Don’t Lie (with Anne Burt), and the forthcoming The Foursome (May 2026). Published in more than 40 countries, her novels have received the New England Prize for Fiction, the Maine Literary Award, and a Barnes & Noble Discover Award, among others. 

Anne Burt is the coauthor of the thriller Please Don’t Lie. Anne’s debut novel, The Dig, was an American Booksellers’ Association Indie Next pick and the Strand Bookstore’s mystery selection of the month. Her essays and fiction have appeared in numerous publications including Salon and NPR, and she is a past winner of Meridian’s Editors’ Prize in Fiction. 

Among other things, Christina, Anne, and Carter discuss how their friendship and writing relationship formed, trying to write with a unified voice in a co-authored novel, and balancing thriller “tropes” with realistic plots. At the end of their conversation, they make up a descriptive story using a line from Wendy Walker’s Blade.

Episode 208 | December 4, 2025

“Readers are giving you such a huge gift—and the gift is their time. So I always feel like to be respectful of that time, I have to be providing them with the best quality book I can.” 

Cynthia Swanson is the New York Times and USA Today bestselling author of the psychological suspense novels The Bookseller, The Glass Forest, and Anyone But Her. Cynthia was named 2025 Indie Author of the Year by the Indie Author Project, has received the Colorado Book Award and the WILLA Literary Award, and won the Indie Author Project contest. She is also the editor of the Colorado Book Award winning anthology Denver Noir

Among other things, Cynthia and Carter discuss taking up writing later in life, Cynthia’s journey to self-publishing, and committing to writing a ghost story. At the end of their conversation, they make up a creepy story using a line from Jacqueline Winspear’s The Comfort of Ghosts.

Episode 207 | November 29, 2025

“I got one life. What do I want to leave behind? And I decided a failed writer was better than a successful attorney.”

Elena Taylor spent several years working in theater as a playwright, director, designer, and educator before turning to fiction. Her first series, the Eddie Shoes Mysteries, introduced a quirky mother/daughter crime fighting duo. With the Sheriff Bet Rivers Mysteries, Elena returns to her dramatic roots and brings readers much more serious and atmospheric novels. Elena is also a senior editor with Allegory Editing, where she works one-on-one with writers to shape and polish manuscripts, short stories, and plays.

Among other things, Elena and Carter discuss Elena’s path to becoming a playwright, the role of atmosphere in thrillers, and overcoming comparison within the writing community. At the end of their conversation, they make up an incredible story using a line from Mailan Doquan’s Ceylon Sapphires.

Episode 206 | November 20, 2025

“I wrote 90 pages about the most boring man in the world. He drove around, got coffee, thought about life… and after six months, I killed him and buried him in a desk drawer.”

Harry Hunsicker spent his working career as a commercial real estate appraiser. His first novel was the Shamus Award nominated Still River, about a Dallas PI with the unfortunate name of Lee Henry Oswald. Hunsicker has since written and published eight more crime thrillers, including The Life and Death of Rose Doucette, which was recently nominated for a 2025 Thriller Award. Hunsicker also writes screenplays. His short script—the PG13 titled (S)hit Squad, was produced in 2022 and has garnered a number of awards including Best Screenplay by the Twin Lakes Film Festival. 

Among other things, Harry and Carter discuss Harry getting inspiration from his own bookshelves, the art of sending query letters, and receiving Thriller award nominations. At the end of their conversation, they make up a gripping story using a line from Jennifer Chase’s Count Their Graves.

Episode 205 | November 13, 2025

“The muse days and the slog days look the same on the page, but they feel completely different when you’re writing them.”

Aime Austin is the author of the Casey Cort and Nicole Long legal thriller series, weaving sharp social commentary into gripping crime fiction. Born in Brooklyn, Aime graduated from Smith College and Cornell Law School before practicing family and criminal law in Cleveland, Ohio. She now splits her time between Los Angeles and Budapest, writing thrillers, hosting the podcast A Time to Thrill, and interviewing brilliant women creators. Aime is a 2025 Mystery Writers of America Barbara Neely Scholarship recipient.

Among other things, Aime and Carter discuss Aime’s experiences doing “stringer” work for newspapers, fearing losing momentum in your writing, and attracting new readers as your fanbase ages. At the end of their conversation, they make up a dark story using a line from Tess Gerritson’s The Summer Guests.

Episode 204 | November 6, 2025

“Don’t be afraid of the fact that pretty much every first draft is a failure. Just get the thing out.”  

Scott Graham is the author of the National Park Mystery Series, which includes nine books and counting. In addition to his mysteries, Scott is the author of five nonfiction books, including Extreme Kids, winner of the National Outdoor Book Award. Scott is an avid outdoorsman and advocate for public lands. He has worked as a newspaper reporter, magazine editor, radio disk jockey, city councilor, and coal-shoveling fireman on the steam-powered Durango-Silverton Narrow Gauge Railroad.

Among other things, Scott and Carter discuss staying relevant between book releases, improving your writing by reading others’, and balancing the reality of murder with hopeful storylines. At the end of their conversation, they make up an unpredictable story using a line from Matt Goldman’s The Murder Show.

Episode 203 | October 30, 2025

“Nothing guarantees anything. A breakout book doesn’t mean your next one won’t flop—and that’s just the reality.”

Andrea Bartz is a reporter, consultant, and New York Times bestselling author. Her third novel, WE WERE NEVER HERE, was a Reese’s Book Club pick and an instant New York Times bestseller; it was optioned by Berlanti Productions and Netflix. Her most recent thriller, THE LAST FERRY OUT, was praised by NPR’s Fresh Air, Marie Claire, Publishers Weekly, and more. She is also a journalist whose work has appeared in The Wall Street Journal, Vogue, Cosmopolitan, The New York Times, and many other outlets, and she’s held editorial positions at Glamour, Psychology Today, and Self.

Among other things, Andrea and Carter discuss thinking like a businessperson to make it as a writer, separating your emotions from feedback on your writing, and engaging with readers to show gratitude. At the end of their conversation, they make up a brilliant story using a line from Victoria Houson’s At the Edge of the Woods.

Episode 202 | October 24, 2025

“I always say that both horror and romance are genres of hope.”

Lindy Ryan is an award-winning author, anthologist, and short-film director whose books and anthologies have received starred reviews from Publishers Weekly, Booklist and Library Journal. She was named a Publishers Weekly Star Watch Honoree in 2020, and in 2022, she was named one of horror’s most masterful anthology curators. Ryan founded Black Spot Books, a specialty press focused on amplifying women’s voices in horror. She is an award-winning professor at Rutgers University.

Among other things, Lindy and Carter discuss their love of Halloween, losing perspective of how dark their writing is, and emphasizing the importance of consequences in writing. At the end of their conversation, they make up a quick story using a line from Gillian Flynn’s Sharp Objects.

Episode 201 | October 9, 2025

“The only way your journey ends is if you stop trying—and I wasn’t done.” 

Jeffrey Konvitz is the author of the New York Times bestseller The Sentinel. He also wrote its bestselling sequel, The Guardian, and a third bestselling novel Monster: A Tale of Loch Ness. Konvitz is an entertainment attorney, screenwriter and producer. In the 1980s and 90s, he became one of the top independent production executives in Hollywood, where he still resides to this day. 

​Among other things, Jeffrey and Carter discuss changing career paths last minute, writing about the Irish mob, and Jeffrey creating his own publishing company to print the book he had been writing for 25 years. At the end of their conversation, they make up a supernatural story using a line from Greg Isles’s True Evil.

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